Pete, are they male / female or what? Any chance that there will be an army of baby frogs at some point?

I like when Jeanne gives a girly scream in the video.

what's the lifespan of the frogs? tx

Sounds great - a pet we can agree on! How long do these frogs typically live? And does the aquarium really provide them with enough space (it looks so small!)?

Hey ... I resent that Jules! I think my scream was more of a "wow, do I really get to keep these two adorable frogs on my desk for the next week until we shoot the video?! How wonderful!" kind of a scream ...(can you tell we're one of those non-pet families Jen was talking about in the video?)

I always had aquariums while growing up, but now with kids of my own, this low maintenance version seems very attractive. Nice find Grommet!

We have an African Frogs...but we also have lots of other pets. The cats just love the Frogs. The Puppy does not know what to make of them as they are up on the counter. The Gerbil seems to be just fine too. The Frogs are great for the home that does not have many pets...and for the home that does too.

Very cool product! I got one over a year ago down south on vacation. My kids love them and even take care of them. If I wanted to change my gravel color is that possible.

What will happen when people get tired of their "pets" and throw them in to lakes and streams. This is a non-native species and may do harm to local populations of amphibians and fish. Has this been thought through? Bev West

Great product, my two girls love it and much easier to keep than fish and no messy tank to clean

Sorry Jeanne, we all took a vote here in Daily Grommetland and decided that we're with Jules. It was more of a girly scream. A nice girly scream, though.

I have to chuckle over a good memory this product brings to mind. A few years ago, we ordered something similar for my son. The look on the face of the postal carrier when he delivered the tadpoles we ordered to the door was hilarious. He was very concerned that the animals may not have made it due to the heat. Love these African Frogs, though. Much more interesting than the tadpoles (which never really did become frogs...)

Great questions! I just had one emailed to me about what the kits include! We decided to make sure both kits include food so when your Frogs arrive you have everything you need. The Deluxe includes the gear to catch your frogs and clean your aquarium and a black base to elevate off of wood furniture. For more details check out our detail tab!

Shame on all of you (with the exception of Bev West - who obviously did some intelligent thinking about this). There is no reason on this earth why anyone should have these creatures as "pets". They belong in the wild in their own environment - not one that someone created for them, strictly for money. Please don't say you care about their well-being - you don't. It's all about the money you can make and all about the stupidity of humans that think they should be able to have anything they want for their own amusement. Horrible idea, and I was appalled when I saw it on Chronicle last evening.

While my intention is not to create a debate or animosity, I do want to comment on Lyn's comment above. Animals are the same as people, just in different bodies and they deserve compassion and love too. The girls I nanny for got these frogs as pets because they require less maintenance than a dog or cat at this point and we got them to serve the purpose of making them learn responsibility for another breathing entity early on. Regardless, if they specifically were to get another pet or not down the road these teach vital skills in life that we need in order to possibly take care of our own children down the road. If it were not for these guys these frogs would not even exist on planet Earth so they certainly are not taking something out of nature and exploiting it, they created it, for a purpose other than money I believe. They are in a safe and clean habitat just like you are I am sure. and technically all people should live in the wild, we have just evolved to live in shacks or mansions which is our choice of habitat, like the frogs. It could be argued that "having anything they want for their own amusement" would also include the computer you are using to make your comments. You and the rest of the world use electronics at the expense of the environment, but you seem to be more worried about these harmless little frogs than that aspect of it. I commend Pete for his research and point of view on this project and I know the girls and I look forward to getting our frogs and creating a loving environment for them.

We welcome posts sharing various viewpoints on any of our Daily Grommet boards and ask that the conversation remains respectful of everyone's unique point of view. If a post is overly disrespectful you risk having your post pulled and your point of view not represented. It's ok so far, thanks for stopping by!

Recently a story was published in the Boston Herald that an undercover investigation by PETA found neglect in the handling of frogs at Wild Creations. PETA did file animal cruelty charges in South Carolina against Wild Creations, you can read the story here:
http://bostonherald.com/news/regional/view.bg?articleid=1217906&format=email

We asked Pete for more information and he forwarded us the following information.

Follow up police statement from the WMBF News (Myrtle Beach, Florence)

MYRTLE BEACH, SC (WMBF) - Horry County Police began investigating allegations that a Myrtle Beach business is abusing frogs on Thursday, but were unable to find any wrongdoing.

Officers began investigating Wild Creations, located at 1560 Pine Island Rd., on Thursday after People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA) reported cruelty to African Dwarf frogs kept there.

After a two-hour inspection, officers said the business was in clean condition, the tanks for the frogs were satisfactory, and the frogs appeared to be healthy and cared for. The owners of Wild Creations were able to provide documentation from a state-licensed veterinarian showing the care that had been provided to them, according to HCPD spokesman Sgt. Robert Kegler.

Officers contacted a SC Department of Natural Resources herpetologist to ensure the frogs were being properly cared for, and no evidence supporting the allegations was found.

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Pete also forwarded two documents. (If you click the link, a .pdf will open). The first one is the most recent inspection report from the Veterinarian who stops by quarterly to review conditions and procedures.
Vet Letter

The second letter shows the standards that Wild Creations sets for itself.
Wild Creations Handling Standards

Wild Creations has always been responsive to our inquiries and has been a great Grommet partner.

I am so sad for those poor frogs being kept in such a confined space, and the fact that the water is only changed twice a year is outrageous!, not to mention how they are sent in a plastic bag in the mail, imagine that! Additionally the CDC just published a study that these water aquariums have the risk of illness associated with salmonella, not only in th frogs but in the water of the aquarium. Salmonella can survive extended periods of time in the environment causing the risk of indirect transmission through environmental contamination.

Kakalina,

We certainly respect your point of view and concerns, and hope you'll take the time to read the thoughtful responses from Wild Creations above, as well as the documents they asked us to post (just above in Katherine's comment from December 15th). We have every confidence that these folks have thought through all the various issues around safety for the frogs and cleanliness of their environment. Of course, we welcome everyone's comments here and respect all points of view.

Thanks for stopping by.

I hope you guys keep selling these. I have one and its makes my girls faces light up every time they see them. I read the report from the CDC and it does not say these aquariums cause salmonella. This woman clearly has an agenda...I wish people would stick to the facts and not try to scare people with misinformation.

We love the frogs in my house. I read the cdc report and no where did it say these aquariums cause salmonella. I happen to work in public health and see these reports all the time and what the study means is that in general when you have an aqaurium you should wash your hands just like you would after handling meat or eggs.

How often should I change the water in the tank, and how high should I fill it up?

@Lauren, you change the water every 5-6 months filling it up per your instructions. Let me know if you no longer have the instructions that came with your tank and I will get them to you.

looking beyond the instructions, this has been a very enlightening site. Understanding all that has been said of the frog's natural environment, is it inappropriate to buy extra gravel kits and furnish a new abode maybe thrice the size they're in? They are so fun to watch that I was thinking just a little more room to dart would please me, but what about them?

@Allen - that's a great question. We will have someone from Wild Creations stop back and address that. Thanks for stopping by!

when will the weather be good so the i can buy a frog and how much will it cost?

@mandeep - we'll contact you directly because the answer depends on where you live!

how much does the frog with all of the supplys and the tank cost

The classic is $25 and the deluxe is $30.

* Classic EcoAquarium includes 4 × 4 plastic aquarium, two frogs, brown & blue “Living Gravel”, 1 live bamboo, decorative rock and a year supply of Frog Food

* Deluxe EcoAquarium includes 4 × 4 plastic aquarium, two frogs, brown & blue “Living Gravel”, 1 live bamboo, decorative rock, black decorative base, and Eco-Aquarium Care and Food Pack (baster, net, and food pack)

I have had a take like this for a year now. I want to put it with my fish now because i recently got some with a air pump. I am worried what will happen because the frog is not use to the air in the water. Do you think that it will hurt the Frog?

@Courtney - it is very wise to be concerned about such a change in environment. I know that Pete will know what's best for your frog and have forwarded your question to him. Thanks for stopping by!

Do you have to use living gravel? The stores don't sell it here and I don't want to order on line. Thankyou.

@Linda - The living gravel that comes with the kit acts as a natural filtration system, so no additional chemicals, aeration or filters are required. I'll have someone from Wild Creations stop back and let you know how to handle without the living gravel.

These set ups are disgraceful. I work in a pet store and have to deal with the customers who have bought these deathtraps and don't understand why their frogs have died. Changing the water twice a year subjects them to severely poor water quality, and the tiny space makes for no swimming space, and fluctuating temperatures. No responsible pet keeper would buy one of these. African dwarf frogs should be kept in appropriately sized, filtered, and heated aquaria.

Is it possible to purchase more living gravel? I would like to move the frogs to a larger tank. They don't seem happy.

Please disregard my previous e-mail. I will call your 1-800 number and order more gravel. I hadn't read the prior e-mails before submitting my question. Reading through the e-mails makes me feel better about the frog's environment. But I honestly have to say they seem anxious and their behavior has changed over the year displaying more aggression towards eachother. Every now and then they make a very strange noise they hadn't made in the past. Any idea what this means? It's a sort of humming that comes and goes.

I think that you are seeing behavior that is normal during mating season (ie the aggression). You have two male frogs and they can be a little more "frisky" during the mating season which is during Spring March-April and then again in the Fall Sept-Oct. They do not have teeth so while they appear to be nipping at each other, they will not harm the other frog, they are only showing their natural behavior as they would in the wild during this time of year. This also explains the humming, that noise is the mating call for their female counterparts! This is a pretty cool thing to experience!

In regard to the tank size, their tank is very ample room for them, but if anyone would like to provide a larger environment, we are happy to help and recommend going no larger than 1 gallon. These guys do prefer the smaller spaces and need to be able to reach the top quickly to breathe. For a one gallon aquarium you will need about 2 pounds of living gravel to filter the water properly and two bamboo, so that is a good place to start.

@Linda If you do not want to use Living Gravel, you can purchase an aquarium from a store with a filter, you would have to use that if you don't use living gravel. I would recommend asking the pet store representatives the best tank for these guys. I would recommend with filter a 2-4 gallon tank. But you will need the filter for the tank to keep the water clean. The feeding schedule should stay the same.

We got these frogs for my 6yr old daughter who LOVES frogs! A great find! Low up keep for Mom, great fun for kids. Thanks, Daily Grommet/Wild Creations.

I love the frogs. I live alone and was wondering if you could tell me the number of these African frogs I would have to kiss to find my princess?

@Lisa - we're glad that your daughter loves these frogs!

@Ben - pucker up you'll be kissing a long time...all of these frogs are male.

I have finally read all of your comments above. I am a proud life member and avid supporter of P.E.T.A. (People Eating Tasty Animals ;-} ) Sincerely, Ben, SSgt. USMC, Disabled

I am concerned that one of my two frogs may not be getting enough to eat. We have had the frogs for two weeks now, and I have only noticed one jumping to the surface to ingest food pellets. How do I make sure the other is getting food?

@Karin, we've forwarded your question on to Wild Creations. I know they will have insight into what you are seeing.

Great question!! The frogs are cute little guys who are very good at eating when they are hungry. It is very typical to have one more aggressive frog in each tank, you would also see this type of pairing in nature. As far as the frog jumping for the food, that is a good sign. It means he is becoming acclimated to your schedule for feeding and ready to eat when given the chance. They often jump at their food because they don't have great vision, so they hunt or search for food by smell.

As long as both frogs appear happy and healthy, there is no need for concern. You may just not see your other frog eating as you do with the "jumper". If you become more concerned, however, or one frog becomes much smaller than the other, you can increase the feedings to 3x per week (same amount each time) and that should help! If you have any further questions we are also very happy to take your call at our office and go into more detail, we are so proud that our frog parents care enough about their pets to ask these great questions! Should you need it our office number is 843-448-8880. Have a great day!

How can I find Wild Creations Eco Aquariums locally to purchase? I have been searching the internet and can only find them available on-line with some hefty shipping costs. Please advise.

@Lisa - You can check your local pet stores, they are the only ones I would trust to be taking good care of these frogs before finding them a good home. The frogs you get here have been cared for by compassionate and knowledgeable Wild Creations staff right up to the point they get shipped to you.

Can you hold these frogs? or take them out of the tank?

Norma - The frogs are aquatic and thrive in the water. We do not recommend holding the frogs because most importantly they should not be out of the water. Secondly their skin is rather fragile and could be damaged. Third, the frogs are quite QUICK and can hop out of someone's hands unexpectedly and become hard to catch to return to their home. The frogs are fun to watch and observe, but we do not recommend handling!

I saw a previous comment that received no response. I went into a pet store to buy a snail for my frogs...since mine did not come with one. They said that the space is too small and the snail will not survive, (friends of mine went through a few snails). Also, that the water after only changing it twice a year will definitely kill the frogs. Too much amonia will build up and it's not good for the frogs. They were very familiar with the south african dwarf frogs and their habitat put out by your company and said that the water would not remain clean for six months and I most likely end up with two dead frogs. Are they better off in a 2-4 gallon tank and changing the water every couple of weeks? If so, if I get the live gravel will I need a filter? Thanks

@KS - I am forwarding to Kelley as well. The living gravel and bamboo does the job of filtering the water so it only needs to be changed every five or six months. If you'd like to go to a larger tank, Kelley recommends going only up to a 1 gallon tank as they do prefer smaller spaces and need to get to the surface quickly. This requires 2 pounds of Living Gravel and 2 Bamboo for filtration. If you go to a 2-4 gallon tank, you will need a filter to keep the water clean.

Katherine, great answer!

About the snails, I would only say that you can add a snail, but they specifically help with algae and would only be necessary if the tank is about 3 months aged. You do not have to have a snail at all. The snail while a great algae cleaner, can also be replaced with wiping the sides of the tank as needed and keeping the tank in a room where it is not getting a lot of direct sun light.

If you do want a snail, you can order one directly from our website and we can send it to you via US mail, or snail mail! They are great travelers!

Katherine provided a great response to your question, but I would add that our gravel which is "living" is specifically formulated to remove the ammonia from the water and keep the frogs safe. The bamboo also plays a role in this cycle. I can assure you the water is 100% safe for the frogs and will keep them happy and healthy. Of course we are always happy for you to upgrade their home if you like, but as Katherine recommended I would stick to a one gallon. The frogs truly prefer a smaller space, it makes them feel more safe. In the wild, they live in very similar spaces to what we provide already. Pet stores love animals and make their best effort to make good reccomendations, but I would say that the problem here is while they are well read, we are well researched. Our system was developed by a marine biologist who specifically knows these little critters and their needs. Most aquarium trade pet stores group these guys with fish and it really doesn't fit their overall needs. They have special needs and that is where we like to call ourselves the "frog experts" because we have taken the extra step to find out solely what they need and how we can accomplish that. If you have any further questions, please feel free to repost or contact us. We are always here to provide more information about your cool new pets.

one of my frogs is more aggressive than the other and tries to eat all of the food I put in. Is there a way to insure that my other frog gets to eat?

@Carolyn - Kelley responded to a similar question listed above on April 26th. What she said is:

"As long as both frogs appear happy and healthy, there is no need for concern. You may just not see your other frog eating as you do with the "jumper". If you become more concerned, however, or one frog becomes much smaller than the other, you can increase the feedings to 3x per week (same amount each time) and that should help! If you have any further questions we are also very happy to take your call at (the Wild Creations) office and go into more detail, we are so proud that our frog parents care enough about their pets to ask these great questions! Should you need it our office number is 843-448-8880. Have a great day! "

I have a question. Everything I have read about the African dwarf frog says they need a place to hide. Is this necessary and if so what can I buy that will fit comfortably in the eco-aquarium? Thanks!!

@Tonya, great question, I am forwarding to Kelley!

That is such a great question!

The frogs do like to hide from time to time which is why we include the bamboo and decorative stone. You will often see them hiding behind one of those two places to get a little frog privacy! If you want to add something else, keep in mind space is an issue. You do not want to add anything too large. Often, we have customers who add stones that are a little larger. If you want to do this and find something you like, just make sure you soak it in spring water 24 hours before adding it to your tank, and then remove the rock you currently have. You should only keep one rock in the tank, again for space reasons. Then watch them enjoy! We always love to see pictures, so if you do make the change make sure to send us over the picture! Have a great day!

Where can I buy new rocks and bamboo?

@Polly - We carry the decorative rocks (see the drop down in the product window) but we don't carry the Bamboo individually as of yet. You can find the Bamboo directly at Wild Creations website, click here.

I have had my EcoAquarium for 3 weeks and one of my frogs died for no apparent reason. Yesterday it seemed fine and active. I thought about moving the frog to a one gallon aquarium which you say needs 2 pound of special gravel. How much would that 2 lb. cost?

@Renee - I'm so sorry that your frog didn't have a longer life. I'm forwarding your question on to Kelley to make sure we give you the best advice for your situation.

Hi again! I have my frogs now and love them. I do have a question. I got them to keep at work with me; however, I do not work on the weekends and all the lights are off during that time. Do they need light everyday or is this okay? Thanks!

@Tonya - another good question for Kelley!

@Tonya - it is no problem for them to be in the dark for a few days, they are actually nocturnal so I am sure they actually enjoy this extended "quiet" time!

@Renee - We are so sorry to hear about the loss of your frog. Unfortunately just like everything else in nature, the frogs can get ill. These guys have super great immune systems which keeps them healthy 99% of the time, but on the other hand when they get sick, it is often too late when we realize it to treat. If they cannot fight it off themselves, there is not much we can do but be loving frog parents and of course, we are very sad when we lose any of these guys!

We do have a replacement policy, however, and we would be happy to replace the frog for you! As far as the living gravel, 2 pounds would be perfect! We do sell gravel by the pound, but only via phone because it is a special order. You can call our office at 843-448-8880 and any of our qualified customer service reps can help you!

I would like to know the size of the tank in gallons of water?

when I bought your product I loved it because of the two adorable froggies. As i watched them move I relized they hit the sides and looked like they wanted to escape! The tank looked sooo small, so I did some research on these African Dwarf Frogs to see the basic size tanks for them. I found out that they need a minumum of 1 gallon per frog. which means two gallons is perfect. I do agree with you when you say they need shallow water. When I talked to some marine bilogists,veterinarians and people who have aquiariums. They all agreed with me that the size was too small for them and that they should be moved to a larger envirnment. I asked them about their diet and they said these frogs need a mixed diet of bloodworms mealworms blackworms and some pellet food. They said feed them about every other day. When you said you guys are well researched, are you telling me also that all the other places where I had gathered my information are wrong and that you are right? I would like to know the truth about what these frogs need becuase I reaally do care about them and want them to be happy!!!

@Peter - Hi Peter, Wild Creations cares for more frogs than anyone else and specializes in the needs of these frogs. They have a vet on staff with a masters degree in herpetology who 100% stands behind the advice that they give to their frog parents. As you can see from Kelley's other comments, if you would like to move your frogs up to a two gallon tank, no larger, they would do well in that environment as well. Thank you for taking such an active stance to make sure that your frogs are happy. You sound like a great frog parent.

Thank you very much Katherine for adressing my commet and yes I do love my frogs and I am a very proud parent of my frogs. I would also like to know the difference between your living gravel and regular gravel. I asked people about this and they said they are the same because both have bacteria that break down biological waste such as nitite and Ammonia. I've heard that aquariums should have at least some sort of basic water circulation to improve the water quality. And does the arrangment of both the "living gravel" and the regular gravel matter? Thanks for listening to my questions :)

@Peter - Living Gravel is specially conditioned at Wild Creations to maximize its effectiveness at providing a natural aeration system for the eco-aquarium. We cultivate our gravel for 3-4 weeks before the healthy bacteria is at the right level to keep the tank clean for our frogs. Regular store bought gravel does not have this ability, it is a process we have developed specifically for our tanks, so we are able to provide our frogs with a clean living environment. A decorative layer of gravel is placed on top of it for aesthetic reasons but the exact placement of it is not important.

What is in the frog food,(what do they eat)?

@J Scott Great questions! The diet for these frogs includes blood worms and brine shrimp, however, in order to keep your EcoAquarium clean, Wild Creations suggests it is best to feed them their own Wild Creations food pellets, which include all of the nutrients and protein the little frogs need. Thanks for stopping by!

Hi again! I'm not sure if this question has been asked/answered before, but approximately how old are our frogs when they are shipped to us? Thanks!!

Thanks for the great question! Our little guys are about 4 months old when they reach your home, not fully mature. They grow to be 1 and 1/2 to 2 inches long and on average live a life span between 2-4 years.

Thank you again for the great question!

What is the size of the tank in comparison to gallons of water for the classic? Is it half or even less?? From head to what are these frogs measured from? To their feet or tail?

We have had our frogs for 18 months and have enjoyed them. Recently one of the frogs looks to have laid a string of eggs. The odor is bad. This has happened 2x now. Please advise.

Just bought the eco-aquarium, those little guys are cute!! I'm reading different opinions, hope they are OK, and we're salmonella free! How much do I need to worry about the salmonella risk?

Hi Frog Parents! We have a note in to Kelley with all of your questions and will get back to you. Thanks for posting!

First, we would like to say we are thrilled you are continuing to enjoy your frogs! Second, in relation to what is happening with the eggs/odor. The frogs can lay eggs should you get a male and female frog, however the eggs do not usually produce an odor. I can only think that maybe the eggs being laid are not viable and are polluting the tanks. There is an easy way to tell the difference. Viable, healthy eggs are clear in appearence. Unhealthy, or non living eggs are very milky and white. If you see the milky eggs we would recommend removing them immediately. We also recommend changing the water, which is also the best option for you right now to get rid of the "odor" you are mentioning. I would recommend taking all the water out, rinsing all your gravel with spring water, and putting it back in the tank, and of course adding spring water and then frogs back to your tank.

Please let us know if this does not "fix" the problem, but I feel confidant a fresh home for your little guys will do the trick.

What a good question, and of course we always recommend asking anything like this should you have a concern. Our frogs are absolutely safe and healthy. We test them quarterly for any illnesses, and they have always tested salmonella free. We also have a Vet check our facility to make sure our frogs get the most humane treatment and continue to be healthy for our customers. Thank you again for the great question!! We hope you enjoy your new frogs!

I had to see for my self then how much water really filled up the tank. The tank took a little less than a quart of water to fill, which means the tank has about a pint of water per frog. That's about 1/8 the recomended size for the African dwarf frog! Why are you guys only giving these frogs 1/8 the size they are recomended? I read that these frogs are very active and need adequate room to swim around.You guys claim you are the frog experts, so please educate me please. A lot of the African dwarf frog care sheets that I have obtained dont always agree with what you guys display in your care instructions. I do like the natural gravel system you have but does this only work in extremely small eco aquariums? And why doesn't the aquarium have an actual hidding place? These froggies love hidding places as they are prone to being prey in the wild and prefer some hidding places to feel safe. Please correct me if I'm wrong. I like to know the facts behind this not just take peoples word for it. I know you guys are very busy running a big project but please hear me out.

@Peter: You're right, these little guys do like to hide, and they will hide behind the Bamboo or the rocks included in the kit. You can certainly increase the size of the environment if you'd like to - but as you'll see from Kelley's comments, Wild Creations recommendeds no larger than 2 gallons for the 2 frogs and it will need additional living gravel or a filter (see their replies to similar questions above). I also wanted to share this, from their literature:

The African dwarf frogs can most certainly survive in a larger aquarium. You will notice, however, that in the smaller aquariums, they love to lie on the bottom, swim into the corners and hide behind objects. If you move them to a larger aquarium, they are going to lie on the bottom, swim into the corners and hide behind objects. In other words, you can move them into a larger environment, but they do not need it. This small environment mimics the shallow pools they live in in Africa.

Through all of our interactions with the folks over at Wild Creations, we have come to see first hand that they care passionately about African frogs and are deeply knowledgeable about them -- they even have an on-staff vet with a Master's in herpatology who directs practices at Wild Creations.

Sounds like you're quite smitten with the frogs yourself, Peter; we hope you're enjoying observing them and learning more about them.

One of my frogs died and I was wondering if the other one will be okay alone or do I need to get a companion for him? Also, I emptied most of the water and replinished it, but should I clean the whole aquarium? Very sad!! :( Thanks,

@Tonya - I'm sorry to hear that one of your frogs has died, that is a sad day. I have forwarded your question on to Kelley who will provide the information that you need.

We are so sorry to hear you lost one of your frogs! You did the perfect thing changing most of the water, we recommend changing about 75%, and it sounds like you changed just the right amount!

As far as your frog having a companion, these guys are very cool in that way. They are happy to be together, but also happy to be alone as well.

Thank you for loving your frogs as much as we do!

Hello, I have seen these frogs for sell at the toy store I work at. I think they are very beautiful and a great idea, but I was wondering if they are in an environment that helps them thrive. I read some info that suggested you have one gallon of water for each frog.Do you have any suggestions on how I can find accurate info about what these guys need not only to live but to live and thrive?

@Haley - we love that you care about these frogs! If you read through Peter's and Kelley's comments, they thrive in smaller environments and they recommend no larger than a 1 gallon tank for the frogs.

I know I said this before but I just want to state the facts. A thin bamboo plant and small rock are not hiding places. The frogs enjoy something they can hide in like a mini pot turned on it's side. I have a lot of those and they love hiding in them because they feel safe and secure. I know the frogs are bottom dwellers but they still should get an appropriate amount of swimming space to move freely. Overcrowding is one of the biggest stress issues people do with aquariums. A small 4 by 4 inch platform is not enough space for them considering they Can grow to be 2 inches long. Poor water quality is one of the leading factors to illness in aquarium animals including frogs. This is why all aquarium owners do monthly water changes to ensure that fresh water is being entered into the aqarium. A natural filtration system such as living gravel does not excuse monthly water changes but can replace filters. Regular store bought gravel over at least 2 months can form benficial bacteria. It has been proven that they can have some sort of simple bacteria. Feeding is the last topic I would like to talk about. I've noticed that the frogs in these Eco systems have looked rather skinny. The feeding schedule calls for a total of 4 pellets for each frog for each week. This does not ensure that both the frogs get an even amount of food. I've noticed on simmilar products that are pelets they recomend feeding a small aquatic frog 4 to 6 pelets per day. This seems to be a big jump from what your instuctions say to do. I've noticed that people who feed their frogs more food that the frogs do better. I know you guys have a devoted staff but I hope you guys know that a lot of the info you give out does not agree with all of the African dwarf frog information. I don't want to argue with you guys and i greatly respect your company. I know your intentions are to help these frogs but do hear my points and educate me if I said something wrong. I did the best reasearch I could possibly make and used the information availible to make my points. Thank you for hearing me again.

@Peter - thanks again for posting. It is obvious that you care a great deal for your frogs. I will forward your feedback. If Wild Creations changes their recommendations based on their research we will let all of our frog parents know and post it here as well.